Turnamic, Xcelerator, ProLink, NNN... What? A Nordic Guide to XC Boots and Bindings

Turnamic, Xcelerator, ProLink, NNN… What? A Nordic Guide to XC Boots and Bindings

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The more things change the more they stay the same. Take XC Boots and Bindings. How many different combinations of boots and bindings are available to us? Shall we count? SNS Profil, NNN Xcelerator, SNS Propulse, Turnamic, SNS Pilot, NNN Light Touring, NNN BC, SNS BC, 3Pin/75mm, Prolink… Sure some of these bindings are not being manufactured anymore but xc skiers are still using them and when it comes time to update a boot or binding the head scratching begins.

The good news is that things in the  XC boot and binding world are becoming a bit less complex if you can believe that. If you are looking to buy a new skate or classic boot or binding – Rotteffella NNN Xcelerator, Salomon Prolink, and Turnamic bindings from Fischer and Rossignol are compatible with current Rossignol, Salomon ProLink, and Fischer boot soles. Where you need to double check some facts are mounting these bindings on skis.

The new Turnamic bindings being produced by Fischer and Rossignol won’t slide onto NIS Xcelerator plates. The new Turnamic is a two plate binding system and only slide onto their IFP plates which come bonded on Fischer and Rossi skis. If you want to ski a Pilot binding on a current Fischer or Rossi ski with a IFP plate they won’t screw onto or through that plate like they could on the NIS plate. Rumor has it that Salomon is working on a fix for that but it hasn’t come to market yet.

If you want to ski a new Rossignol or Fischer boot on a Salomon ski you can do that with Salomon’s Prolink bindings.

If you want to switch from your Salomon Pilot Skate boots to a Salomon Prolink Boot or Rossignol or Fischer NNN or Turnamic soled boot you can do that with a ProLink binding and the screw holes are the same with a Pilot binding or ProLink bindings. Well played Salomon!

What did I forget? It’s hard to tell without someone asking me. If you have questions call or email or stop in the store and we’ll figure out the best solution for you.

Here are some Turnamic highlights:
Turnamic bindings are co-developed from Rossignol and Fischer. From what we hear it came from a level of frustration with Rotteffella not being responsive enough to innovation requests. Snooze you lose. The highlight from Turnamic is they are super easy to slide onto the IFP plate (no screws to mount the binding to the ski). Much easier than Xcelerator bindings onto the NIS plate. If you want to move the binding forward or back you can do that on the fly and without a tool. Rossi and Fischer both have the identical Turnamic bindings but the boot soles on their skate and classic boots are different designs. No more dictation from Rotteffella. Both Fisher and Rossi now have a free hand to innovate on their own. The Turnamic Race Skate and Classic bindings offer a step in feature. The Race Pro bindings are manual in and out. You twist the toe piece to the right or left to open and close the binding. Many skiers will find this easier than the old up and down front throw style. As far as skiing the Turnamic you won’t feel any night and day difference between the Xcelerator and Turnamic  bindings… but the boots will flex differently from one another you may find a brand preference here.

Salomon Pilot and ProLink:
Salomon has not dumped their Pilot system. What Salomon has done is build practically two distinct boot lines. One Pilot and one ProLink. All ProLink soled boots are compatible with NNN Xcelerator and Turnamic bindings. Fans of the Pilot system will still be able to find new Pilot soled boots for the foreseeable future. When we skied Salomon ProLink skate boots, Fischer and Rossignol Turnamic Skate boots we didn’t feel a huge performance difference. Boot fit will always be your guide so don’t worry you are missing out on something from another manufacturer. Where we felt a huge difference was from Salomon’s Propulse Classic boot/binding system to the Salomon ProLink classic boot/binding system. Holy cow… ski the ProLink system. You’ll feel a much improved rounded flex through the boot sole and solid easier kick and ski on snow feel. No question.

(Salomon skis come predrilled from the factory. Their uber expensive flex machine which measures and pairs skis calculates the optimum mounting point on the ski. There is no reason to wish you could move your binding forward or back… it’s already in the perfect spot!).

Did I say boot and bindings are easier? Well, once you get by the nomenclature it is pretty easy. The goal is to get you into the best fitting boots, bindings, and skis to get you out there skiing! (Not comparing grams, flex patterns, or what your buddy says you should be skiing). Get out and ski! Up! UP!

43 Comments

  • Jeff Steltz says:

    Do new Fischer RCS Skate boots with a Turnamic sole work with NNN Xcelerator bindings on skis with NIS plates?

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Jeff,
      Yes, both the new Fischer and Rossignol boots with Turnamic soles will work with Xcelerator bindings. Even the new Salomon Prolink soled boots will work with Turnamic and Xcelerator. The one hitch is Turnamic bindings won’t slide onto NIS plates and Xcelerator bindings won’t mount on Turnamic plates. The Nordic boot/binding world is becoming a little easier… Let me know if I can help with anything. Write back with any questions. Happy Skiing! Murray

  • Jay says:

    So if I’m starting from scratch — new skis, new boots, new bindings — do the skis come with a specific plate, is there any ski that will or will not accept a plate type? Would you recommend any particular direction between the Turnamic or non-Turnamic side?

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Jay,

      So Salomon is the only ski that we carry that does not have a plate on it. It is a drilled ski and you are committed to the Salomon binding. The Fischer and Rossi skis have the plate and will only except the Turnamic binding. I don’t really have a recommendation either way, it depends on which ski you want and that will tell you which binding you will get.

      I hope this helps you,

      Toni King
      Ski Haus

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Jay,
      Sorry for the tardy reply. I’ve been out of the shop for a couple weeks (long story). Some skis do come with mounting plates. Rossignol and Fischer have developed the new Turnamic mounting plate and binding system. Only their Turnamic bindings will work on those plates. NNN Xcelerator bindings won’t slide onto the Turnamic plate and Turnamic bindings won’t slide onto NNN NIS plates. Having said that NNN Xcelerator, Turnamic, and Salomon Prolink boot soles will work on Turnamic, Xcelerator, and Prolink bindings. Things are becoming a little easier with compatibility… kinda.

      I have always recommended letting boots be your guide when it comes to choosing a boot/binding system. Rossi, Fischer, Salomon, Alpina, One Way… all these guys make great boots but there will always be one that will fit your foot best. Go with that brand/system. (Including Salomon Pilot… don’t forget about that binding system).

      I have found that the Turnamic bindings do slide onto their plate lots easier than any Xcelerator binding ever slide onto their plates. And moving the position of the Turnamic binding on the plate without a tool is much easier than Xcelerator. Nice improvements.

      And then there is Salomon with their Prolink soles boots and Prolink bindings. Salomon skis come predrilled from the factory. Salomon pinpoints the ideal mounting position for the binding so there is no need to move the binding forward or back (turnamic or xcelerator). Salomon Prolink and Pilot should definitely be considered.

      Not sure how much this will help but I hope it helps some. There is so much great skate and classic skis and boots out there it’s hard to make a specific recommendation. Write back with questions! Thanks, Murray

  • Elzbieta Plonska says:

    Would nnn bc bindings fit on skis with pre-mounted nis plate?

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Elizbieta, That can maybe work. You just drill through the NIS plate to mount the binding. I’d double check the width of the ski to make sure the NNN BC binding isn’t too wide. You don’t want the screws holding the NNN BC binding too close to the sidewall of the ski. Most NIS plated skis I picture in my head are pretty narrow. In years past we would mount Salomon Pilot skate bindings right on top of NIS plates and there was never an issue (skate skis and skate bindings). Write back with any questions! Thanks, Murray

  • Jim Wheeler says:

    I Just bought a pair of Atomic Nordicross skis with Salomon Prolink bindings. I have a mens 9 – 9.5 narrow foot. What are my options for boots? A 60 year downhill skier just taking up cross country. Thanks!!!

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Jim,
      Thanks for your note. Which model of Atomic ski did you purchase? Ski Haus doesn’t carry Atomic Nordic skis and when I checked their current line of skis I didn’t see Nordicross… did you purchase a skate or classic ski? As far as which boots are available to you with the Prolink binding you have tons of choices. Salomon, Rossignol, Fischer, and Alpina are the main players and all produce boots that will fit the Prolink binding. Just make sure the Salomon boot says Prolink and not SNS (Salomon produces both boot Prolink and SNS soled boots and SNS is not compatible with Prolink). The other factor is skate or classic. Make sure you are buying the correct boot for the correct ski. I have a a medium/narrow foot and Salomon fits me really good. My advice is to check at least two boot manufacturers fit with one another to make sure the boot fits and feels perfect. All of the brands I listed above make great boots but they all don’t fit the same. One will feel better than another. Write back with any questions. Have a great upcoming winter! Murray

  • Jennifer Newman says:

    Can you use Salomon SNS boots with a ProLink binding?

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Jennifer,
      Unfortunately, that won’t work. The Salomon SNS boots (whether Pilot or Profil) have a single channel down the boot sole. The new Prolink bindings have two channels that nest with the boots soles and are compatible with Salomon Prolink soled boots, older NNN Xcelerator boots, and the new Turnamic soled boots from Fischer and Rossi. Hope this helps. Write back with questions. We’re here to help, Murray

  • Noah says:

    Can Rossi classic turnamic race pro bindings fit on the Rossi X-ium Classic WCS C2 16/17 ski?

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Noah,
      Thanks for your note. Sorry, this won’t work. Turnamic bindings are not compatible with NNN Xcelerator NIS plates. The opposite is true too. Xcelerator bindings won’t slide onto Turnamic IFP plates. Best case is to find a Xcelerator binding for your Xium skis or you can drill a Salomon Prolink Classic binding through the NIS plate on those skis. Hope this helps. Write back with any questions and have a great winter! Murray

  • Peter says:

    Hi Murray! I sold my Madshus Nanosonic with Rottefella Xcelerator but still have Madshus boots. Wonder now if these boots can be used with new Turnamic bindings?

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Peter,
      Thankfully, yes. Boots that worked with the Xcelerator bindings will work with the new Turnamic bindings and they will also work with Salomon’s Prolink bindings. The Nordic world has slowly come around where most current boot/binding systems will work together (the Salomon SNS Profile and Pilot systems are the exception). There are a few glitches still… older Xcelerator NIS bindings won’t slide onto Turnamic IFP plates and Turnamic bindings won’t slide onto Xcelerator plates. Madshus, Fischer, Rossignol, and Salomon Prolink boots are all compatible with Xcelerator, Turnamic, and Prolink bindings. You just need to be aware of what bindings are going on what skis (NIS plates, IFP plates, or Prolink binding which screw into the ski).

      Long answer to a simple question but I hope it helps others as well. Have a great winter! Murry

  • Nate says:

    Hey there!

    Thanks for this awesome overview.
    I have a good pair of Fischer skate skis with SNS Profil bindings on them, but am trying to move to using Rossignol boots with NNN soles. Do I need to replace both the bindings and the plates on the skis, or will I be able to mount NNN bindings on the plate that is already on the skis?

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Nate,
      To convert to a NNN soled or the new Turnamic soled boots all you’ll have to do is mount a Salomon Prolink binding on your skis. The Prolink binding is compatible with NNN soled boots, Turnamic soled boots, and Salomon Prolink boots. The best part about the Prolink bindings is they share the same hole pattern of the SNS Profile bindings. You won’t have to drill new holes or figure out mounting plates. Let me know if you need anything else. Ski Haus can ship you a pair of the bindings if you can’t find one where you are. Snowing hard here this morning and it’s looking great out there! Thanks, Murray

  • GordN says:

    Will an SNS Prolink boot work with an older Salomon SNS Profil Auto XC Ski Bindings?
    Thank you in advance

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Thanks for your note. Unfortunately, this won’t work. If you are upgrading your boot to a new Salomon Prolink soled boot you will need to upgrade the binding, too. The good news is a new Prolink binding will screw right into the existing holes of the old SNS Profile binding. No need to drill any additional holes in your ski. Hope this helps. Write back with any questions. Have a great winter! Murray

  • Becki says:

    What is the difference between the Turnamic race and race pro for racing? Is there any benefit to getting the race pro over the race for the price?

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Becki, The Turnamic Race has an auto step in feature. You don’t have to bend down and turn the lever left or right to open the slot for the toe bar of the boot. Just slide the toe bar up to the bumper, push down, and in you’re in. You do have to bend down and turn the lever to get out. The Turnamic Race Pro is a manual entry and exit and it is lighter by 28 grams. If you have a high end ski that is super light and you’re racing go with the Race Pro and save on the overall weight of your ski and binding. Otherwise, the auto step-in feature with the Race does appeal to lots of folks… Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions and have a great winter! Murray

  • Sarah says:

    Hi,

    I have SNS Pilot plates mounted on my skis. I’m trying to swap this for NNN boots with Rottefella NNN bindings. Do I need to replace the plate?

    Thank You!

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Sarah,
      What skis are you skiing? As far as I’m aware a plate was never needed to mount a Pilot binding. Perhaps your Pilot was drilled/screwed through a NIS plate? If that is the case all you need to do is buy a Salomon Prolink skate binding and the NNN boot will work with this binding. The Prolink binding uses the same screw holes as the Pilot. If you like, send me a photo of your skis to info@skihaussteamboat.com and I can say plate or no plate for you. Write back with any questions. Thanks, Murray

  • Mindy says:

    So, if I am using a Salomon Pilot Combi boot and want to ski a Rossignol with a turnamic binding I’m out of luck? Any suggestions on an intermediate waxless classic ski for mostly groomed and maybe a little ungroomed terrain? I was looking at the Rossignol R-Skin Evolution but it sounds like that won’t work unless I want to get a new pair of boots. I was hoping to get a waxless ski that isn’t fish scale. Thanks, Mindy

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Mindy, There is an adaptor plate that can create a flat surface over the Turnamic IFP plate. You can mount a Pilot or SNS binding onto the Rossi with this conversion… however, these plates are really difficult to find. I haven’t given up but I haven’t had any luck either. Another option would be Salomon’s Skin skis. RC Skin, RC 8 Skin, or RC 7 Skin skis all favor the track. You might take a look at Snowscape 9 Siam Skin. The Snowscape is slightly wider in its dimensions and kinda give you the option of skiing some backcountry trails that have already been skied in. The RC skis are more traditional in length and the Snowscape is compact sizing (small, medium, large). The Salomon Skin skis ski equally as good to Rossi and Fischer. All the Salomon skis are a flat topsheet so you can mount a pilot style binding, combi binding, or classic binding on these skis. Write back with any questions. Hope this helps… I’m kinda rushed at the moment… the Steamboat Nordic Camp check in starts in a few minutes and I gotta run! Thanks and let me know what you think. Thanks, Murray

  • Peter Mylonakos says:

    Hello there,

    great article. I would like to get your opinion on XC skis. I am a beginner and here is what I would looking at:

    Get a ski package with

    Rossignol Evo (OT) 65 IFP Positrack XC Skis
    Rossignol X-3 XC Ski Boots
    Rossignol XT-700 XC Ski Poles

    or

    Rossignol Evo XC 60 Tour Cross Country Skis
    Salomon Escape 5 Prolink boots
    Turnamic Control Bindings
    Swix ST102 Trail Poles

    I am starting with groomed trails and then I may wander off bit so I wanted to check whether there is an advantage or not with what I am presenting.

    Also, can you suggest a proper length of XC ski? I am between 5″6″ – 5″7′ and I fluctuate ( LOL) between 189-199 pounds.

    Thank You in advance for your help.

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Peter,
      Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I was helping with the Steamboat Nordic Camp this weekend and then took advantage of two full days off!

      Both your packages look well thought out and put together quite well. I have a couple thoughts for you. Not all track dimensions are the same especially the bottom width. The Evo 65 may not fit into the bottom of every track at every touring center you visit. If you find yourself at such a touring center you can always ski to the side of the classic tracks and still have a fun time.

      The Evo OT 65 will have the advantage when you tour where there is not a groomed track because of its additional width and metal edges. I might suggest stepping up to a Rossignol X-5 OT or X-5 boot – again just for the days you are not a touring center. A slightly more supportive boot will still ski at a Nordic Center just fine but give you the added strength for backcountry touring or “wandering off.”

      Your second package looks great with limited performance when you “wander off” a bit. The 60 width of this ski will fit in all tracks at all touring centers you visit.

      For a ski length your weight dictates you ski a XL (195cm) from Rossi. The sizing is done primarily with weight. The ski needs to flex enough to set the positrack pattern to set your kick but also be strong enough to carry your weight in glide.

      Being 5’6″ – 5’7″ you may think about the length and the amount of ski tip in front of you that you need to control. If you went with one size smaller (Large 185cm) you will increase the kick and control with the ski but will sacrifice glide. You need to consider your performance preferences… kick and control over glide. The more often you use the XL length the more you will get used to it and as you progress with your skills the XL will work fine for you. Does that make sense?

      Let me know what you think about all this. Sorry again for the late reply. Write back with any questions. Thanks! Murray

  • Peter Mylonakos says:

    Hello Murray,

    great article. I would like to get your opinion on XC skis. I am a beginner and here is what I would looking at:

    Get a ski package with

    Rossignol Evo (OT) 65 IFP Positrack XC Skis
    Rossignol X-3 XC Ski Boots
    Rossignol XT-700 XC Ski Poles

    or

    Rossignol Evo XC 60 Tour Cross Country Skis
    Salomon Escape 5 Prolink boots
    Turnamic Control Bindings
    Swix ST102 Trail Poles

    I am starting with groomed trails and then I may wander off bit so I wanted to check whether there is an advantage or not with what I am presenting.

    Also, can you suggest a proper length of XC ski? I am between 5″6″ – 5″7′ and I fluctuate ( LOL) between 189-199 pounds.

    Thank You in advance for your help.

  • Carlyn says:

    Hi Murray,
    I’ve got a pair of SNS profil boots that I would like to keep using with my new alpina skis that have an NIS plate. I’ve read varying opinions about whether you a) need an adaptor to install an SNS profil binding on an NIS plate or b) can screw it right on top of the plate – any thoughts? I’ll be using these for recreational touring so don’t need super great performance.

    Thanks!
    Carlyn

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Carlyn,
      Ski Haus has been drilling both SNS Profil and SNS Pilot bindings right through the NIS plate with no issues. We’ve been doing this for several years and no one has come back in with any complaints. Drill away! Write back with any questions and happy skiing! Murray

  • Vic Villasenor says:

    Great article Murray. My new Fischer twin skin skis have NIS plates. The Rotefell Move binding appears to offer the on the fly adjustabiliy I’m seeking but I can’t find any info on differences between gen 1 and 2 NIS plates. Moreover, The Fischer NIS plate looks the same as the one on my Madshus Ultrasonic classics – whose top graphic shows NIS3 !? Hope you can clear up my confusion. Thanks.

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Vic,
      The difference between NIS 1 and 2 is the length of the plate. 2 is longer than 1.The Move System will work on either plate. We don’t have the Move system in stock and I haven’t played with the different mount options… The Move Switch has an extension you add to the NIS 1 plate to create the length for the Move System. I hope this helps a bit. I’ll know more once I get back from the OR show late this month and and the on snow demo early February. Write back with questions. I’ll do my best for you. Thanks, Murray

  • jhansonxi says:

    My existing setup:
    Salomon 127061 Escape poles with bicycle mushroom grips to increase diameter and reduce hand fatigue
    Salomon 126995 XL Snowscape 7 skis
    Salomon Escape 7 Pilot CF Cross-Country Ski Boots
    Salomon SNS Pilot Sport Classic Bindings
    Swik F4 liquid was because I’m lazy

    Put this kit together back in 2013. Boots bought last year to replace the originals that cracked. Bindings replaced last year’s pair after a secondary clip failed and I had to bust it out with pliers to finish the season. Last week the tail on one of the skis cracked and is not repairable. After about 500mi/800km I guess I shouldn’t complain but now I have an investment in boots/bindings and market has changed much over the years. I’m unsure if I should stay with the SNS Pilot system or sell off my old gear and get something more trendy.

    I ski in most any conditions from ice to dirt in the 0°F (-18°C) to 40°F (4°C) range including groomed 2-track, skate trails, and trudging through backcountry woods with logs, rocks, and slush, in daylight or dark, in any weather, up to a max of about 10mi/16km at a time. After my experience with the broken binding last year I feel I can live without the secondary SNS Pilot clips. Their minor benefits don’t outweigh the cost and complexity, at least for classic skiing. I was occasionally annoyed with ice build-up on the clips but it wasn’t difficult to remove and only occurred under specific snow/temperature conditions. I don’t have any complaints about the boots, except maybe a bit too flexible, but I bought them online and didn’t try any others (and still haven’t). Poles have held up in spite of abuse.

    What should I do – replace the skis or start over?

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Thanks for your note. Yes, replacing equipment always presents a dilemma. Typically you can’t make a bad decision… the tough part is making the best equipment decision for yourself. Since you mentioned the boots felt a little too soft I’d probably start there. If you have the chance to try boots on in store to feel the flex – that is best. Do you want to continue with your current boots or find something a bit stouter in the sole? Replacing your skis certainly is the easiest and simplest… Salomon still makes the Snowscape 7. You could simply replace the ski with one that you are familiar with and call it good.

      I just got back from the ski show looking at all of next year’s Nordic gear. Salomon is committing to the SNS systems for another 3 years. Once that time frame is done they may still continue forward or perhaps not. The one nice thing for you is if you stayed with your current boots and bindings and switched boot/bindings to another system later – Salomon makes the Prolink soled boot and Prolink bindings. The Prolink bindings will use the exact same holes at the SNS system so you won’t have to get them drilled a second time.

      The tide has been changing from SNS Pilot to Salomon’s Prolink system, Rossignol and Fisccher’s Turnamic system, and of course the Rotteffella NNN system. All three of these systems are compatible with one another so again… thinking of a boot… go with the best fitting boot and you will still be ok whether your new ski has a Turnamic IFP mounting plate, an NNN NIS plate, or if the ski has a flat top sheet with no mounting plate.

      I realize this is not simple answer to your “replace your skis only or start over” question but I hope it gives you a way to think it forward. Write back with any questions. We’re here to help. Thanks, Murray

  • Riku K says:

    Hi,
    my Fischer Carbonlite skate skis bonded IFP plate is cracked up. I know there is screwable Turnamic IFP plate. But is it possible to screw that plate to skis? And how to remove bonded plate?

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Riku,
      We tried to remove a NIS plate once with zero luck. The customer who wanted this done accepted the fact that trying to remove the plate might result in the ski breaking and that’s what happened. If you have no reason to move the binding forward or back I’d probably screw in a Salomon Prolink binding (skate or classic) right through the existing NIS. If you need to have the capability of the binding moving forward or back then I’d give the retro NIS plate a shot. Two plates on top of one another and then the binding might be a bit suspect but often we don’t know until it’s tried. I hope this helps. We have been drilling Salomon Pilot bindings through NIS plates for a number years and never had an issue. I believe you would have the same luck with the Prolink bindings. Hope this helps some… There isn’t an easy answer. Write back with any question. Good luck and happy skiing! Murray

      • Riku says:

        Thanks for fast answer!
        The problem is now solved. I got new skis from local importer. Excellent service from them. Every expert I talked to was thought that Prolink is easiest solution. And all say, that is not a good way remove bonded nis-plate.

  • michaelB says:

    Hello!

    Could you please help me understand if that equipment will work together?

    the binding: SALOMON SNS PILOT EQUIPE SKATE 2019
    the boot: SALOMON S-LAB PURSUIT PROLINK 2016

    and also, the difference between those two skis, for an intermediate skier, 69kg, 180cm:

    SALOMON RS 8 2019
    SALOMON EQUIPE 8 SKATE

    Thanks a lot for help, excuse me for my ignorance =D

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Michael,
      Sorry, these two won’t match up. Pilot and Prolink are two different systems. To use the Pursuit boot use either Salomon Prolink Carbon Sk+ binding, Prolink Carbon SK binding, or Prolink SK2 binding or Prolink Pro Skate. If the Pilot bindings are already mounted on a ski the good news is all of the bindings mentioned will screw right into the existing holes of the Pilot binding… no new holes will have to be drilled.

      The only difference I can come up with on the two skis is the new RS8 has optimum mounting. The ski is pre-drilled for the bindings. Salomon has an uber expensive machine to flex each ski to find the optimum mounting position on each ski. This makes mounting the bindings on the ski super easy. There is a bit of a price difference between the older Equipe 8 and the new RS8 but other than that… Core is the same, base material is the same, dimensions, etc… Let me know if you have any more questions. Happy Skiing! Murray

  • Patrick says:

    Hi, I stumbled onto your conversation here. Thanks for your information.
    I have an older Fischer setup with SNS bindings and the boots are starting to crack.
    Seems my options are to move to NNN of some sort, find some used boots, move to 3 pin.
    My main complication is that newer boots seem to have more arch support and that causes problems for one of my feet. Do you know of a model of boot that is fairly flat, maybe even no arch support, on inside. If I can find a comfortable boot, I think I’d just move to a whole new setup.
    Also I’m seeing some of your discussion about the stiffness of the boot.. I’m just a basic recreational skier any thoughts on what I should look for as far as the stiffness of the boot.

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Patrick,
      I’m guessing your SNS system is for backcountry since you mentioned a 3pin option. I wouldn’t rule out any boot. When you try on boots pull out the existing insole and replace it with a blank or flat insole. This may help with your fit issues. You’ll still need to test for width. Usually arch support is built into the insole and not the internal construction of the boot so you should be able to reduce the amount of arch you feel. Ski Haus has had good luck with Alpina’s Montana NNN, Alaska NNN and their Alaska 75mm boots. We also carry the Rossignol BCX 10 and BCX 6 boots for alternative fits. Most BC boots have a medium flex to allow for touring. Different boots have different upper ankle support depending on how much premium you place on turning your skis and downhill control. I hope this helps some. Write back with any questions. Have a great end of your winter season. Murray

  • Doug says:

    Are turnamic bindigs and ifp bindings the same

    • Murray Selleck says:

      Hi Doug, Yes, Turnamic is the binding. IFP is the plate (integrated fixation plate). Just a few more binding, plate, and boot sole names to help keep us Nordic skiers confused… Thanks for your note. Write back with any questions. Murray

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